Dilip K. Pandey:
Philosophy is the Mother of Science,wat do u thnk?
Hi Friends,Should we believe Francis Bacon when he calls philosophy "the mother of the sciences," or John Locke when he calls her a "handmaiden to the sciences"? I believe we willdiscover that here, as in the case of most false dilemmas, the truth lies somewhere in between. Let's explore the extent to which philosophy and science need each other... Let us work out for 'Unification'.
Sudeep Bhattacharya:
It is Very Difficult to Conjugate Philosophy and Science.Philosophy is more about beliefScience is more about facts;they call it rationaleIt is more of an antimatter of Science.What do u say....?"u belive in what u see, rest all is philosophy....."
Dilip K Pandey:
@Sudeep,
Yes, you are absolutely right when you say that "It is Very Difficult to Conjugate Philosophy and Science.",even I dont want to do that, but the driving force behind this topice for me was in my early ages, I used to read that "There is only one Ultimate Power or Force which driving our whole universe"...(as you said this is something about philosophy- "Philosophy is more about belief") and the same time I was taught about different types of Forces in Science...this was really out my understanding capabilities during my childhood...years passed...after almost an decade suddenly I read that a Group of Scientists is working on "Unification of Forces"...that made me recall all that was just a philosophy for me long back ...and I realized what this "Unified Force Theory" is going to be...
This is just an example of one of the reasons that make think in the direction which leads to a Belief that "Is the Philosophy mother of Science...?"...After all, even if Philosophy, directly or indirectly, provides a ground which you cant see("u belive in what u see, rest all is philosophy....."), then too its worth talking about such a topic, isn't it ?
Anushree Ghisad :
Philosophy gives you a distinct vision to prcieve the life, it can expand your thinking horizons, provides you new dimensions........science can take you upto certain limits and well explain the reasons for something happening, but it cannot always provide you with certain logics, and here where philosophy comes to its aid.Also, there are many evidences in science where there is no concrete proof for many basic laws.Take for example zeroth law and very popular first law of thermodynamics.First law says ` energy can neither be created nor be destroyed, but total amount of energy in the universe remains constant`, or in other word it is impossible to create a machine without expenditure of work.
There is no mathematical proof for these laws, but they were declared as laws only because nobody could violete them or prove them wrong.And see,chemical engineering, mechanical, thermal and power engineering have used these laws as basis of entire engineering. in chemical industries, this is the crux of unit operatins and process calculations.
Anushree Ghisad :
All I want to say is, science cannot provide concrete reasoning for everything, because it has got limitations..........but philosoophy is all about belief, and aptly said in BHAGVADGITA ,` a man is made by his beliefs. As he believes, so he is`philosophy can explains reason behind everything, absolutely everything in this universe. Scince is created by man, but philosophy is immortal. At certain point in our lives, we are bound to accept it there is a HEIGHER FORCE which is guiding you, it is the ultimate truth in the universe, it is watching us all, all human being, those who have created science, so it ought to be far more superior than scinnce.....
Dilip K. Pandey:
@Anushree
Great thought...I wish this process be to much stronger...keep on writing...
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Monday, June 11, 2007
Complete only with yin and yang
To deny the feminine aspect of self is to deny a complete life. The completeness of God is owing to this melding of both the female and the male aspects. Sacred feminine therefore is a pursuit of those looking to achieve God-like completeness...
A FRIEND ASKED me once about my thoughts on being a devotee of sacred feminine. I did would like to share with you what I conveyed to him. As far as my concept of divinity is concerned, I believe God is beyond number, count and gender. God is one and more than one. God is both male and female and beyond the male-female dichotomy. We may worship the divine in any form we choose and God responds in kind. Lord Krishna says: “In whatever form people relate to Me, I respond in the same form.”
Several relationships with the Divine are described: the Divine as father, as mother, as friend, as husband or wife and as child. In our country, the Divine is worshiped in all these forms, and by true nature I accept all the people as they are (but it does not mean I follow them...). And, I am, from my basic nature, Matri-shakti Upasak. So, you can call me a devotee of sacred feminine.
Not just in India, but there is a resurgence of interest in the sacred feminine, especially in the West. Recently, the whole world was discussing about the Da Vinci Code and an analysis given by Dan Brown, which is as follows.
Early Christianity entailed "the cult of the Great Mother". Mary Magdalene represented the feminine cult and the Holy Grail of traditional lore
She was also Jesus’ wife and the mother of his children
Magdalene’s womb, carrying Jesus offspring, was the legendary Holy Grail (as seen in Da Vinci’s encoded painting, The Last Supper)
Jesus was not seen as divine (God) by his followers until Emperor Constantine declared him so for his own purposes
The "truth" about Christ and Mary Magdalene has been kept alive by a secret society named the Priory of Sion that was lead by great minds like Leonardo Da Vinci and Isaac Newton.
I would say that we could be truly human only through our connection to the sacred feminine. She is part of us and we are part of Her. If we deny our feminine aspect, we lead incomplete lives. She helps us to integrate our body, mind and soul. It is the integration of our masculine and feminine aspects that makes us whole and holy. We can be gentle and strong, intuitive and intellectual, inward and outward, reflective and active. We can love one another and care for each as brothers and sisters, as husbands and wives. We need the Goddess in our lives to repair, to nurture and to heal.
I don’t expect anyone to agree with all these, but just put what I have been thinking about our Feminine Aspects of Nature... and I am sorry to say that I havn’t read much of philosophy. But I think the phenomena that everybody is talking about, has already been there in the roots of our country… it is not like whatever the screnario (unluckily a bitter truth of male dominance) is there, is there from the start, it is all man-made, and nowhere mentioned in any of our Veda/Upnishad/Aranyak or Sanhita, and I am sure that everyone who has written the Bhashya (which is nothing but individual’s understanding of Veda) or tried to explain the concept of Sacred Feminie, has just accumulated the ideas from those roots. Sometimes I wonder so much is said and too little is followed. If you will go through our creation story (as it is mentioned in Brihad-Aranyaka Upanishad or the Book of Forest Teaching), you will find that in the beginning was the Self in the form of Purusha, or the Great Being. He looked around and found none else but himself. And, the Great Being said Aham in Sanskrit, or I am. That is how the Self came to be known as I am. He was afraid. But then he said to himself, "Of what am I afraid? There is none other than myself. Once he realized this, the fear was gone. But he had no delight, for one who is all alone, does not rejoice. The Great Being desired a second. He caused himself to grow as big as a man and woman closely embracing. He then caused himself to fall into two parts, and from this, a husband and wife were born.
Sage Yagna-valkya says: “One is like a half fragment, and this incompleteness is filled by a woman. The Great Being united with her, and thus the human race was born. But the woman reflected, how can he unite with me after producing me from himself? For shame, I will conceal myself. Thus followed the game of hide and seek between him and her. She hid herself becoming the cow. He became the bull and united with her; the bovine creation followed. She concealed herself as the mare; he became the stallion and the horse race ensued. She became a female-goat, and he a billy-goat, and from their union all goats were born. Thus followed several orders of creation, down even to the ants.” Says the scripture, “The Great Being then created the five elements: fire, wind, earth, water and space. He then created speech and names and forms to distinguish one from the other. God also created the fourfold order of society. Finally, he created Dharma, the Law that holds together the whole Creation.
Once the creation was in place, He saw that He Himself was the creation for indeed He had released it from Himself. The creation is He Himself. And he who realizes this truth of creation becomes himself a Creator for he is identified with the creative process and the Creator. To know is to become. So, in this creation story, the whole existence is One, for it originates from the One. It is the One Self that has entered into every object and into these bodies, down to the very tips of the fingernails. God therefore is not aloof from His/Her creation.
The creation is a manifestation of the powers and potentialities that reside within the Divine. Creation is not an illusion, or Maya. If God is real, then this creation is real since it originates from God. So, the Divine assumes a double form at the very moment of creation. The Great Being becomes two: male and female. God’s dual form represents two sides of One Reality — positive and negative, yin and yang, him and her.
If you will observe then you will find that the act of creation is joyful and fun-filled. So, I will conclude it on the note: "To know is to become."
A FRIEND ASKED me once about my thoughts on being a devotee of sacred feminine. I did would like to share with you what I conveyed to him. As far as my concept of divinity is concerned, I believe God is beyond number, count and gender. God is one and more than one. God is both male and female and beyond the male-female dichotomy. We may worship the divine in any form we choose and God responds in kind. Lord Krishna says: “In whatever form people relate to Me, I respond in the same form.”
Several relationships with the Divine are described: the Divine as father, as mother, as friend, as husband or wife and as child. In our country, the Divine is worshiped in all these forms, and by true nature I accept all the people as they are (but it does not mean I follow them...). And, I am, from my basic nature, Matri-shakti Upasak. So, you can call me a devotee of sacred feminine.
Not just in India, but there is a resurgence of interest in the sacred feminine, especially in the West. Recently, the whole world was discussing about the Da Vinci Code and an analysis given by Dan Brown, which is as follows.
Early Christianity entailed "the cult of the Great Mother". Mary Magdalene represented the feminine cult and the Holy Grail of traditional lore
She was also Jesus’ wife and the mother of his children
Magdalene’s womb, carrying Jesus offspring, was the legendary Holy Grail (as seen in Da Vinci’s encoded painting, The Last Supper)
Jesus was not seen as divine (God) by his followers until Emperor Constantine declared him so for his own purposes
The "truth" about Christ and Mary Magdalene has been kept alive by a secret society named the Priory of Sion that was lead by great minds like Leonardo Da Vinci and Isaac Newton.
I would say that we could be truly human only through our connection to the sacred feminine. She is part of us and we are part of Her. If we deny our feminine aspect, we lead incomplete lives. She helps us to integrate our body, mind and soul. It is the integration of our masculine and feminine aspects that makes us whole and holy. We can be gentle and strong, intuitive and intellectual, inward and outward, reflective and active. We can love one another and care for each as brothers and sisters, as husbands and wives. We need the Goddess in our lives to repair, to nurture and to heal.
I don’t expect anyone to agree with all these, but just put what I have been thinking about our Feminine Aspects of Nature... and I am sorry to say that I havn’t read much of philosophy. But I think the phenomena that everybody is talking about, has already been there in the roots of our country… it is not like whatever the screnario (unluckily a bitter truth of male dominance) is there, is there from the start, it is all man-made, and nowhere mentioned in any of our Veda/Upnishad/Aranyak or Sanhita, and I am sure that everyone who has written the Bhashya (which is nothing but individual’s understanding of Veda) or tried to explain the concept of Sacred Feminie, has just accumulated the ideas from those roots. Sometimes I wonder so much is said and too little is followed. If you will go through our creation story (as it is mentioned in Brihad-Aranyaka Upanishad or the Book of Forest Teaching), you will find that in the beginning was the Self in the form of Purusha, or the Great Being. He looked around and found none else but himself. And, the Great Being said Aham in Sanskrit, or I am. That is how the Self came to be known as I am. He was afraid. But then he said to himself, "Of what am I afraid? There is none other than myself. Once he realized this, the fear was gone. But he had no delight, for one who is all alone, does not rejoice. The Great Being desired a second. He caused himself to grow as big as a man and woman closely embracing. He then caused himself to fall into two parts, and from this, a husband and wife were born.
Sage Yagna-valkya says: “One is like a half fragment, and this incompleteness is filled by a woman. The Great Being united with her, and thus the human race was born. But the woman reflected, how can he unite with me after producing me from himself? For shame, I will conceal myself. Thus followed the game of hide and seek between him and her. She hid herself becoming the cow. He became the bull and united with her; the bovine creation followed. She concealed herself as the mare; he became the stallion and the horse race ensued. She became a female-goat, and he a billy-goat, and from their union all goats were born. Thus followed several orders of creation, down even to the ants.” Says the scripture, “The Great Being then created the five elements: fire, wind, earth, water and space. He then created speech and names and forms to distinguish one from the other. God also created the fourfold order of society. Finally, he created Dharma, the Law that holds together the whole Creation.
Once the creation was in place, He saw that He Himself was the creation for indeed He had released it from Himself. The creation is He Himself. And he who realizes this truth of creation becomes himself a Creator for he is identified with the creative process and the Creator. To know is to become. So, in this creation story, the whole existence is One, for it originates from the One. It is the One Self that has entered into every object and into these bodies, down to the very tips of the fingernails. God therefore is not aloof from His/Her creation.
The creation is a manifestation of the powers and potentialities that reside within the Divine. Creation is not an illusion, or Maya. If God is real, then this creation is real since it originates from God. So, the Divine assumes a double form at the very moment of creation. The Great Being becomes two: male and female. God’s dual form represents two sides of One Reality — positive and negative, yin and yang, him and her.
If you will observe then you will find that the act of creation is joyful and fun-filled. So, I will conclude it on the note: "To know is to become."
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